Police slowly built a case against Patricia. Ms. Its never been made clear. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Media galore. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. I do not think Mr K is guilty. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. There are innocent people in prison. Having watched and read all that has been available, I feel very strongly, that a grave error has been perpetrated by the law authorities. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. There appears to be evidence of her disturbed thinking shortly prior to the event (inc her stating she knows who the perp was shortly after but would not identify because its her?) They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Beautifully said Cliff! This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. A correction to the comment above. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Puny policy. This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. Am I missing something? Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Answer 1 of 3: My Thai wife put her foot down - despite Covid-19 were are going sightseeing, or else. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. This Sunday, Investigation Discovery and velvety-voiced Dateline NBC correspondent Keith Morrison will revisit the double-homicide. Great communicator. 51min. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. One on one? His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. WoW! Why not question some of this evidence? Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. Its barely visible in the picture. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. She took out the woman who replaced her. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. 6-10. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. And the fact that Patricia called Andrew even after he married someone else didnt mean she was still carrying a torch for him, according to one of her friends. . Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. See Commonwealth v. Rorrer, CP-39- CR-0002176-1997 (C.C.P. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. It was just assumed to be crib death. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! Prosecutor pounds away. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). On December 14, 2020, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court denied Ms. Rorrer's petition for allowance of appeal, concluding her state appellate proceedings. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. Cop defends accused. I can't believe this bitch has a whole internet community rallying for her; have they SEEN the evidence? Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. And she will have to answer eventually. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Whatever the truth is. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. Or did they? I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. Charged with two counts of capital murder and two counts of kidnapping, Patricia Rorrer was quickly tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Patricia L. Rorrer was taken into custody from the Linwood home she shared with her boyfriend and 1-year-old daughter on June 24, 1997. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. On December 12, 1994, Joann answered a phone call from a woman shed never met, Patricia Rorrer, her husbands onetime girlfriend. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. Rather, Im conservative when it comes to potential disagreement with the jury: I wasnt there to see/hear evidence and to declare theyre wrong! Its totally irrelevant. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. And the obvious answer is that the makers too think the evidence is against her. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. What a lame article. If the answer is no, enough said! Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, 7 Unnerving Facts About the Lindberghs and the Kidnapping, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Daniel and Cynthia McDonnell: Good Cop, Bad Wife. 1 talking about this. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. Having read that and your most recent comment above, its clearly obvious youre a person of high educational standing and legal knowledge, which I fully respect. Patricia is not guilty of this horrible crime she was railroaded by her ex and the cops. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Nailed? The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. Had he for some reason been murderously angry with, or bitter towards, Mrs K, why kill his baby? So, lets take your response one step at a time. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!!
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