Okay, so here's a wood plaque That says Lonesome George is the last survivor of the dynasty of land tortoises from Pinta Island and in fact in 2012, after decades of trying to get him to breed lonesome George Dies. Well, I talked to one scientist sonia klein door for I'm professor in animal behavior at flinders University, south Australia. What happened to the forest, goats, goats? They basically got their home back. Nearly 200 years later, the Galpagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose and perhaps answer critical questions about the fragility and resilience of life on Earth. External Link A discussion of the attacks on LaBeouf, Rnkk & Turner 's HEWILLNOTDIVIDE.US art project by far-right trolls. Radiolab took down this episode and issued an apology on August 12, 2017, following accusations that it appeared to condone the actions and ideologies of extremist groups. So you can give a push to this Process. Thank you. Hey, it's latin. That's our working hypothesis which brings us to her idea. And if you think of 100,000 goats eating everything in their path, every sort of plant that even the bark off of trees, they destroy the forest. As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing And that is how they go from 90% go free to 91 to 92 to 93 to 94. These females would go for more than 100 and 80 days. This is the place where Darwin began to develop his theory of evolution and it's the place 100 70 year or maybe 280 years later where our producer tim howard landed wearing fishnets and a bad brains t shirt too fine to find a very different landscape than what Darwin saw. Here at Radiolab we wanted to flip that flop, so we dredged up the most mortifying, most audio story. You can just take the best pinta tortoises you find and put those on Penta and you know over the next 200,000 years they will evolve into a pinto tortoise and it could be a bit different than the past pinta tortoise because evolution and mutation and all that doesn't occur the same. We then went to a wolf volcano island next door and collected two females. They tagged, we collected genetic samples, got some D. N. A. Yeah. Super limited electricity. I met him at this pizza place the election had happened the night before and did he win? As of September 2020, Radiolab is hosted by Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller. The show focuses on topics of a scientific, philosophical, and political nature. The show attempts to approach broad, difficult topics such as "time" and "morality" in an accessible and light-hearted manner and with a distinctive audio production style. 23 Weeks 6 Days The finches look similar but their beaks were always a little bit different and this gets them thinking what if it isn't the way that everybody always says, what if God didn't create every single species in the beginning and leave them unchanged? The show is known for its deep-dive journalism and innovative sound design. Web9 1 Radiolab Podcasts and Streamers 1 comment Best BewareTheSphere 6 yr. ago A lot of WNYC podcasts do transcripts-- I know On the Media does. And I remember asking one guy, they're driving so slow, I can just walk up to them. Let's go back to a better time. And so we want to ask for your help now, as we enter this new stage, this new year for us. So they're all kind of converting over into the tourism economy. Doesn't matter point is an introduced species. But speaking of beaks that finch that Arnaud was holding his beak, did you see the, especially this side is extremely huge. It grabbed the goats dart, um, and then in a matter of minutes, snip snip did you do this? Just walk past the newspaper that says 72 hours left in the electoral campaign. She first came to study tortoises back then. Nearly 200 years later, the Galpagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose and perhaps answer critical questions about the fragility and But there's a much bigger question here that that goes way beyond globally, which is basically like what is the right way to protect nature now? So I think there's been a change. My version was, is my dream of what it would be like as you land on and it's sort of like low grassy knoll and an enormous turtle comes by the one that you could sit on the top of it. Yeah, I mean powerful colors. WNYC's Radiolab series tackles just five topics each season. Fantasy is that the flies use a pheromone to attract the opposite sex. You actually end up meeting a lot of people employed that way in Galapagos and he tells me politically speaking, he's an outsider and of course I'm wondering why he's standing there by himself waving a flag at this entire parade of people who don't support him at all. Surely in four generations you could have 90% of the pinto genome restored. And he told me that in the seventies and eighties lobster was fished all year round no restrictions. Or maybe it's 10,000 hammerhead sharks. So linda when she first went to Galapagos to study these tortoises about 30 years ago I did a trip where we backpacked around the caldera. He didn't seem to like humans and maybe that's why he survived. There is music under the breaks. R. i. 179 years later, the Galapagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose -- and possibly answer -- critical questions about the fragility and resilience of life on Earth. You know, like nature in its purest form. These five species, does that mean that they may go extinct in the next five years in the next 50 years? WebRadiolab is one of the most beloved podcasts and public radio programs in the world. We had episodes fully translated into american sign language with transcripts in braille. 24 June 2012. People sent in dozens of tortoises but linda took one look at them and was like no, no no, no they weren't pinto's. Here we go. Web72 votes, 254 comments. And so the technique that we would use was you would fire up your helicopter, you fly around, you'd find some goats, capture goats, capture them live and then come back back to base camp, offload them and you put a radio collar on them and you throw them back on the island. He was their counter protesting and he says that at one point they went after National Park buildings and they were attacking the ranger stations with molotov cocktails. It's actually the footprint of the white man. The medium tree finch has patrol that boundary. Yes. The boys. Scientists first began to see this in 1997 when they started to find nests full of dead baby finches. 2012-10-10 06:29:29. Just out of sympathy for them. just a boom rod. They've got to limit their catch. Let me start by telling you about the tortoise. It was very confusing. [00:00:21] Hi, this is Katrina from Melbourne, Australia. Okay, um it's sort of the first thing that really just like, where the hell am I I? Oh my God, he looks a little bit furry, Almost really tiny, vulnerable fledgling of a warbler finch. Who kind of scrambled everything up for me? You've got. And they're like, I don't know who the guy was, but it turns out he was the incumbent. But that shouldn't really happen. The goats become quote educated. And shortly after we walked up, he reached out into this tree and he grabbed this tiny little baby finch right off the branch. It goes off and has this kid and it's very solitary, which is the last thing you want when you're trying to get goats off islands. This is radio lab and we are dedicating the entire hour to this little set of islands and to that question as the world is filling up with more and more and more people, Is it inevitable that even the most sacred pristine places on the planet will eventually get swallowed up? James says they kept going back combing the island with highly trained toward of sniffing dogs. Things might not be silly. I call it the phoenix blodgett. It's a race against time. I didn't say it was silly. Mhm tortoises walking around. Just because so today a little step back in time to one of my favorite radio producers, tim Howard telling us the story of a truly singular spot on the face of our earth. This foundation is this idea of pristine wilderness from the very beginning, I think all of us well I can't speak for other people, but but you always have this idea of wanting to get it back to some kind of pre human condition, pre human being, the operative word. But to give an example of the nature of this business that's josh Donlan, he runs an NGO that was involved in project Isabella. The other three of money behind them and you see their flags all over santa cruz. That was actually the first thing I noticed. There's 100,000 of them, So many doubters, Carl says even heard the idea, why don't you put lions? This is the villain. I mean that's what I thought. Alan Alda on the new yorker radio hour from W N. Y. So now they had a dilemma. You mean eat the fly larva? Really? It's like a soprano saxophone and alto and a 10 or something like that. Hosted by Latif Nasser and Their mating calls. Scientists had to find clever ways to help the turtles on the island! But Darwin didn't consider this possibility. According to some accounts, they even hung them from trees. WebNature and World Cultures, Sp2021 Prof Sandy Brown Listening Guide:Radiolab, Galapagos Please use the sections below to take notes on key moments, quotes, events, and When he visited Galapagos, he collected a lot of specimens of finches, took them back to England and eventually he realized that the beaks had all adapted. In the mid nineties we started in 94 Gisella and some folks from the Galapagos national park, they began taking a census of all the tortoises in the Galapagos. Listen 18 min The Political Scene | The New Yorker Corpse Demon We are ascending and we have our dreams. No Bocelli the incumbent one. All I remember is having a smile on my face all the time because you know, as a biologist going to Galapagos is like going to mecca. Jun 24, 2022. We just told you a story about how far humans are willing to go to protect something. Radiolab The test-writers definitely listen to this podcast to get ideas for science passages The science passages you see on the LSAT often have to do with evolution, psychology, and interaction between humans and nature. Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. We celebrated our 20th anniversary. One male tortoise, maybe 50 years old. She says if we keep doing that, taking the babies with the most painted DNA, breeding them together slowly. The adult fly seems to be harmless. WebThe interview originally from a podcast called The Relentless Picnic, but presented by one of Lulus current podcast faves, The 11th is part of an episode of mini pep talks designed to help us all get through this cold, dark, second-pandemic-winter-in-a-row. We know it doesn't make a lot of sense, but our show is listener funded and we need your help. There's a little hole into the brain of this little finch. We did this amazing story about one of the worst american football games in history. There's no place, no matter how remote we get, you can go to the North Pole, it's been affected by human activity. Yeah, it's P. H. I L. I can't spell out loud Phil or L. O. R. N. I. S. D. O. W. N. S. I. Filan is actually means bird loving. TRT: 59:00 *Breaks: Two 1:00 minute breaks. More information They've got, they sterilized 39 of them. So I took the plane from Kyoto. Look at this species here, Small levi, green thing they call it Huntin in spanish, it is in its plan ta go, I think in the U. S. They call it, Was it the wrench of the white man? I started studying Darwin's finches in particular. They were a little bit different depending on which island the finches lived on with the beaks. They're just basically the lawnmowers. Here's the backstory. Image credits: Rene via Adobe Stock. If they're going to release sterilized male flies into the wild, they have to be able to raise millions of these flies in the lab and they're trying like crazy showing me all of the larvae that hatch today and four baby flies that had just hatched and these little cups. Addeddate. Yeah. The flies spreading island to island. Most recently, in an exploration of the science of aging and the search for immortality in an episode titled "Mortality," hosts Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich It's this on ending struggle. Which should never actually happened because these are totally separate species. So in 2009 they come up with a stopgap. Are these finches disappearing very fast, Very slowly, depends on the species. But the interesting thing was from year to year it got more difficult. Our fact checkers are diane kelly, Emily Krieger and Adam Sibyl Hi, I'm Erica in Yonkers leadership. And what happens is that as soon as birds start laying eggs, mother flies swoop in and lay their eggs on the base of the nest underneath the finch eggs. On the one hand, the tortoises needed help. Initially it was carl's suggestion was goats, gregarious and like being in groups, they're herd animals. Here we are, we're going to look at these incredible creators called los malos and as we're walking along the path, she's like, oh wait, look at this, She points just to the right of the path. And the fishermen are like, who are you to tell me that I can't feed my family. They kept them around. The nostrils have have big holes, something had gotten inside this little finches, nostrils drilled these holes And it was now eating the flesh on the inside of the bird's nostrils. Listen to keeping score a special series on the United States of anxiety wherever you get, listener supported W. N. Y. C. Studios way listening to radio. Sony says each time she go into the field the song sounded like they were starting to blur together. By the ocean of breath twice, I remember I carried your oxygen. I said it was impossible. This is carl Campbell. Indeed. more about how IBM is using AI to help organizations create more resilient and sustainable infrastructure and operations by visiting IBM dot com slash sustainability this week on the new yorker radio hour, we're joined by Alan Alda Alda talks about growing up around burlesque shows his life as an actor, science feminism and how he took up podcasting in his eighties. So it's a lot. And so what they decided to do is leave the judas, goats on various islands where they can live out their sterilized days chomping on grass, sharing war stories until such time as it might be needed again, is the, is the war between the greens and the and the fishermen and such, is that still hot and difficult And are they still no killing tortoises and they're not the fishermen. Same exact story that Darwin saw these processes that he described that just never ever stop. It's hot, it's bright. What's that? This is radio lab. Humans. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)! These are such alien looking creatures. We said goodbye to Jad abu Murad. But then at the same time the tourism economy has been taking off and so all of these fishermen, they find that it's easier for them to actually survive by using their boats to take tourists around island island. It wasn't their fault. See do you just spell fulanis down? This one, which first aired As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! Mhm We'll be back in less than 200,000 years. You know sleuthing adventure sonya and her team rounded up some of the birds. Could you whistle them for me? Hey listeners, this is molly Webster. 179 years later, the Galapagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose -- and possibly answer -- critical questions about the fragility and resilience of life on Earth. And the goats that were out there were gorgeous, You know, they had curled horns, different coloured fur, just beautiful animals and they've been there for 500 years, some people were concerned with goats have their own if you will right to be there. I thought you were gonna say people, it was kind of a collaboration. That was definitely not what I thought you were gonna say. Hello? I guess. There's thousands of islands around the world that have goats on them. Now the jury is still very much out on what will happen. We were really starting to get kind of desperate about options. Galpagos. 1. Created in 2002, Radiolab began as an exploration of science, philosophy, and So how big a problem is this? This is James gibbs, professor of conservation biology at the State University of new york, it's one of those islands, it's not part of any tourist visitation site. Oh, I'm never a Doubter. We want to hit the ground running as we go into the next year and you've heard of the lab, we've been talking about it, we've been so excited about it. You know, Galapagos was really isolated, barely any cars. Well, there's there's a couple of clues that say maybe, Yeah, for example, when you look in the nests, they seem to have fewer parasites and they seem to have more babies that survive 15%. It is about enabling the key actors, the bridge engineer to do their work more effectively more efficiently. Oh God, dad showed me this. But we will be different when we come back. Oh yes. So there are no people there. You know, we assume that it was carbon dioxide carbon dioxide from the breathing. Okay, so this is linda, linda chiyo, currently the science advisor for Galapagos Conservancy. What you do is you sit at the back of the tortoise and first you have to get to where they'll allow you to touch them. Yeah, judas codes. (727) 210-2350. www.caahep.org. Let's just take some tortoises from a nearby island and put them back on Penta. Ornithologists have started to notice some new behaviors. WebIt was that last word, gonadsand a researcher who referred to them as magical organsthat sent Radiolab producer and host Molly Webster on a quest to reignite our fascination with embryonic development, X and Y chromosomes, and reproduction. WebCommission on Accreditation of Allied Health Education Programs. Hey, radio lab listeners, Here's a message from our partner, IBM. But at the time the immediate question was, are there any more because if they could find a female for George, then they could, you know, maybe de extinct the species. Really? Hmm. I'm Robert Krulwich. So they lash out, they marched down Charles Darwin avenue, they would come down the street throwing rocks and sticks and everything. By this point, I'm getting super excited and I'm thinking about Darwin and I start reading Voyage of the Beagle, his book on this nook that I had bought for the trip. Unlike on the island of Isabella, which became barren, on the island of Pinta the vegetation has grown out of control due to the extinction of the tortoises (and no goats) by 1906. It shows you also evolution. The uneasy marriage of biology and engineering raises big questions about the nature of life. This year marks the 150th anniversary of the publication of his "On the origin of species", and the unspoilt islands still fascinate researchers. See? Plus with 24/7 support, you're never alone. But as they become rare and rare, they're harder and harder to detect. You can buy it at home depot but there it is in the Galapagos and along this path just looking to the right and the left and then she just starts counting the number of invasive species at 1234 as you can see here, it's only right next to the trail but not so much for them. The guy who wins, he spent $500,000. The ideal judas goat, if you will is a goat that would search for and be searched for and that would never get pregnant. No, we're talking about island by island over the course of about seven years. So I met this woman named Hanky Yaeger who is like a plant scientist. But that's the only possible the first day. Whereas the numbers were very small for the medium tree finch and smaller for the small tree finch, wow, I dare say that sounds kind of hopeful. Well it means that these two different finches had started having babies together. You know, there's green mangroves, black lava flows and pink flamingos. So while we were in the highlands of santa, Cruz hunky took me through the woods to meet this guy named Arno. The tortoises had different shells depending on the kind of island they lived on. Were all great apes. It has a terrible common name in english. Green and white leaves. These tortoises are only found here. I worked for island conservation and I'm based here in the Galapagos islands carl's actually the guy who showed me those tortoises, it was just a, it was a barren landscape, barren, barren grounds. It's like so cynical. That's what I thought. You could see the marks where it was just chopped up. You know, they basically feed on the blood of the baby birds. 14K subscribers in the Radiolab community. And wherever they went, they would lure those male goats out of their caves so that, you know, all in all over the course of this two year program, we had hundreds of judas goats out and using those goats, they were able to go from 94% goat free to 96 to 97 to 98. Now the Galapagos government spends millions of dollars checking all of the goods that come in and out trying to quarantine the ones that might have things that are a problem. And the flags are still flying everywhere. They'll actually go into caves. a short break. I'm talking tie dyed caps and hot pink sweatbands. Very special. The story about the invasive Wow, that is freaking amazing, describe them. Yeah. The small tree finch goes something like that's a small tree finch. But a high school girls volleyball team is redefining what it means to play together. But here's what they do know. Radiolab ' s first nine seasons (February 2002April 2011) comprised five episodes each. Subsequent seasons contained between nine and ten episodes. Season 15 began airing in January 2017. In 2018 the show's seasonal and episode format became obscured when online content moved from radiolab.org to wnycstudios.org. Like the large ones. He and some national park rangers race out to pin to and there it was this beautiful tortoise. It wouldn't notice that you were there. Someone chopped it in half. And James says in a way it was a paradox because on the one hand, awesome, we have an actual living pinta island tortoise. I'm a professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at Cornell University said that at this meeting there was one guy who just couldn't take it all I remember is him just fuming. Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. So Darwin's finches In short, Darwin! WebWe are dedicating a whole hour to the Galapagos archipelago, the place that inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. Today we begin on a plane which carried our newly married producer, tim howard to the Galapagos. And you have this one here. So nature has a boys now has the boys. For transcripts, see individual segment pages. WebRadiolab Galapagos Podcast RESURRECTION (18:01) 10. You know, they, they plow down vegetation disperse seeds, but for centuries they've been hunted by those whalers and in about 1906 The Penta Tortoise went extinct 1906, a little over 100 years ago. Now most of these plants are actually probably harmless and you know like you said Galapagos national park they spend tons of money, tons of time trying to keep invasives out. I began my work in Galapagos in 1981. And we all agreed because the calls are really distinct, easy to tell apart. And he tells me, well, I'm nervous. And more importantly, can we? The new york public school system has been called the most racially segregated in the country. So they choose not to breed. It shows you the power. Radio Lab is supported by Shopify, a platform designed for anyone to sell anywhere giving entrepreneurs the resources once reserved for big businesses. This hour we take a look at what happens when we all try to live together. They kidnapped some people, including some of my crew and they even killed dozens of tortoises, slitting their throats. And he says he would go on these dives. And then you wait instinctively that loan go will go and find other goats. But even worse so far. He says that when he first got to the Galapagos in the eighties, he couldn't believe that the place was real. How did these little fly babies? But when I ask charlotte what she makes of all of these changes, she said, I think probably too little too late. They can live for over 100 and 50 years. You know because like we talked about in the 17 18 hundreds, these whalers would come along grab a bunch of tortoises, put them on the ship and then they would hunt for whales. No, that's a that's a very specific trip. As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! But compared to the medium tree finch is they are because the medium tree finch is were on the brink of extinction. So they began to frantically study it. WebPodcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? This hour is about the Galpagos archipelago, which inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. Teladoc is available through most insurance plans and if you're not covered, you can still have access, download the app or visit Teladoc dot com slash radio lab. Penta is was a very special place. They would need like millions of traps every few feet to do that. Joint Review Again, a whole bunch of herpetologists were out there and some island conservationists and they're talking about what to do pente and they can't get lonesome George to reproduce which they were hoping to do because then they could build a pin to population and put it on Penta. You can go, I don't know the depths of the Impenetrable jungle, It's been affected by human activity. Thanks for listening. This next part, it's about how far we're willing to go to get something back that we've already lost to restore a place in a creature to its wild state. They introduced goats to Galapagos, but on islands like Isabella, which is this massive island size of Rhode island, The goats were actually penned into just little part of it Because there was this black lava rock that ran across the island, extremely rough lava that's extremely difficult to walk across 12 miles of it. He sat there getting more and more and more frustrated and finally he just blurted out shoot that tortoise and quit wasting our time because in his view this the single individual was holding up this huge conservation opportunity. They literally drove the rangers out of the National Park headquarters and took it over on Isabella. Yeah, the results of this were absolutely impressive. And I'm like, is he gonna win? You had plants re emerging, you had trees growing back and in a really short period of time. WebThe audio for this video comes from NPRs RadioLab - I do not own the rights to this. And those are really interesting ideas, but at some point they're gonna get hungry and they're going to start eating all the other things that you know, you treasure, like the occasional tourists in any case after endless planning and meetings took eight years, I think they commence project Isabella. Yes. So where your values lie. And as he went island to island, he started noticing that there were all these creatures that were really similar to each other but also a little bit different. I've got my thing over here and you got your thing over there. We don't think it was natural Gisella thinks it might have been the whalers. WebGalpagos - Podcast As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! So thank you very much for the interview. My name is, he's an ornithologist from the University of Vienna. You can join in on early access at our merch stores. And when you set foot first on pin to you immediately since your abundance all the insect life and birds problem is on pena things were spinning out of control vegetation was growing wild in the forest was getting overgrown with the wrong kind of plants and the whole ecosystem was just teetering out of balance And one of the reasons for this, according to Linda Coyote is that we had an island with no tortoises because tortoises are sort of like the lawnmowers. But that's four generations of tortoises, not rats. Even if they could for who knows maybe a million years. Yeah. So go join at radio lab dot org slash join and I'll see you all later. Darwins 5 weeks on Galapagos pushed him to develop his theory of evolution and thats also why when we think of evolution we think of the Galapagos and in A given episode Yeah. full access to Shopify his entire suite of features. And that's paul Watson, founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. No, but it just seems so unrealistic, right? And if you think about it, we all have this, we all have this this picture of what we want to bring it all back to. It's customized for your needs, provides tools to manage your day to day needs and drive sales and helps make your idea real. You had tons of sailors making these long voyages across the Pacific and Galapagos was the major ports on the whaling route where you come and get fresh water, but you'd also come in and pick up tortoises, land tortoises and you know, boats would take away several 100 of them often and turn them upside down and they can last for up to a year and a half in the hold of a ship like lying there, upside down, lying there upside down in order to make space for the tortoises. Um and eventually you start um you know fondling their their legs and tails and hoping to get them to ejaculate and had a volunteer working with me, her name was favorite bridge oni. Report for Radio Lab. A small business owner makes their first sale on Shopify. you're radically remaking the world. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. We only have a few days left to meet our financial goal. 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